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          <dc:title>Order-Invariant MSO is Stronger than Counting MSO in the Finite</dc:title>
          <dc:creator>Ganzow, Tobias</dc:creator>
          <dc:creator>Rubin, Sasha</dc:creator>
          <dc:subject>MSO</dc:subject>
          <dc:subject>Counting MSO</dc:subject>
          <dc:subject>order-invariance</dc:subject>
          <dc:subject>expressiveness</dc:subject>
          <dc:subject>Ehrenfeucht-Fraissé game</dc:subject>
          <dc:description>We compare the expressiveness of two extensions of monadic&#13;
   second-order logic (MSO) over the class of finite structures.  The&#13;
   first, counting monadic second-order logic (CMSO), extends MSO with&#13;
   first-order modulo-counting quantifiers, allowing the expression of&#13;
   queries like ``the number of elements in the structure is even''.&#13;
   The second extension allows the use of an additional binary&#13;
   predicate, not contained in the signature of the queried structure,&#13;
   that must be interpreted as an arbitrary linear order on its&#13;
   universe, obtaining order-invariant MSO.&#13;
&#13;
   While it is straightforward that every CMSO formula can be&#13;
   translated into an equivalent order-invariant MSO formula, the&#13;
   converse had not yet been settled.  Courcelle showed that for&#13;
   restricted classes of structures both order-invariant MSO and CMSO&#13;
   are equally expressive, but conjectured that, in general,&#13;
   order-invariant MSO is stronger than CMSO.&#13;
&#13;
   We affirm this conjecture by presenting a class of structures that&#13;
   is order-invariantly definable in MSO but not definable in CMSO.</dc:description>
          <dc:publisher>Schloss Dagstuhl – Leibniz-Zentrum für Informatik</dc:publisher>
          <dc:contributor>Tobias Ganzow and Sasha Rubin</dc:contributor>
          <dc:date>2008</dc:date>
          <dc:relation>Is Part Of LIPIcs, Volume 1, 25th International Symposium on Theoretical Aspects of Computer Science (2008)</dc:relation>
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