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          <dc:title>Debordering Closure Results in Determinantal and Pfaffian Ideals</dc:title>
          <dc:creator>Dey, Anakin</dc:creator>
          <dc:creator>Guo, Zeyu</dc:creator>
          <dc:subject>Algebraic circuit complexity</dc:subject>
          <dc:subject>Isolation lemma</dc:subject>
          <dc:subject>Debordering</dc:subject>
          <dc:description>One important question in algebraic complexity is understanding the complexity of polynomial ideals (Grochow, Bulletin of EATCS 131, 2020). Andrews and Forbes (STOC 2022) studied the determinantal ideals I^{det}_{n,m,r} generated by the r× r minors of n× m matrices. Over fields of characteristic zero or of sufficiently large characteristic, they showed that for any nonzero f ∈ I^{det}_{n,m,r}, the determinant of a t × t matrix of variables with t = Θ{r^{1/3}} is approximately computed by a constant-depth, polynomial-size f-oracle algebraic circuit, in the sense that the determinant lies in the border of such circuits. An analogous result was also obtained for Pfaffians in the same paper.&#13;
In this work, we deborder the result of Andrews and Forbes by showing that when f has polynomial degree, the determinant is in fact exactly computed by a constant-depth, polynomial-size f-oracle algebraic circuit. We further establish an analogous result for Pfaffian ideals.&#13;
Our results are established using the isolation lemma, combined with a careful analysis of straightening-law expansions of polynomials in determinantal and Pfaffian ideals.</dc:description>
          <dc:publisher>Schloss Dagstuhl – Leibniz-Zentrum für Informatik</dc:publisher>
          <dc:contributor>Anakin Dey and Zeyu Guo</dc:contributor>
          <dc:date>2026</dc:date>
          <dc:relation>Is Part Of LIPIcs, Volume 362, 17th Innovations in Theoretical Computer Science Conference (ITCS 2026)</dc:relation>
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